a1b2c3
12-11 09:47 PM
for the first time (in 5 years that I have been tracking them) the visa bulletin looks like it was "made in America". The america of old, the one that is so organized that every official form includes an estimated time on how long it takes to fill it up. The one where every street has a clear name marker, every intersection has multiple stop lights, multiple signs. Where the little cats-eyes on the road are color coded[1] Where lines form automagically when a bunch of people converge on anything. Where you can go to any .gov site and pick up whatever statistics you want on anything from agriculture, to factories, to healthcare.
This is a nation built on documentation and organization.
For the first time the visa bulletin does not look like some discarded bingo card or four monkeys getting excited on a typewriter. For the first time the numbers make sense, they explain why they are what they are. They even put our prediction threads out of business by coming out with their own set of predictions for the rest of the year.
USCIS has had data like this for eons (how many cases pending in which category and from which country). It took the usual american obsession with data and organizing data to come out with all this.
Kudos to them.
Things remain bleak, but just to see something so neatly organized and put out was heartening to me.
P.S: and no, this is not them just doing their job. Their job is to put out the dates every month (like they have been doing for atleast over a decade). To clearly spell out how many cases are pending (like their recent report), and now to predict how these dates will move, is IMO going beyond the minimum requirements of the job, and is much appreciated.
[1]: blue meaning a firehydrant, yellow as a separator of lanes in different directions, white in the same direction, red is dont enter. found the meaning of the blue one recently, and was impressed. atleast in CA this is what they are.
Nice observations.
This is a nation built on documentation and organization.
For the first time the visa bulletin does not look like some discarded bingo card or four monkeys getting excited on a typewriter. For the first time the numbers make sense, they explain why they are what they are. They even put our prediction threads out of business by coming out with their own set of predictions for the rest of the year.
USCIS has had data like this for eons (how many cases pending in which category and from which country). It took the usual american obsession with data and organizing data to come out with all this.
Kudos to them.
Things remain bleak, but just to see something so neatly organized and put out was heartening to me.
P.S: and no, this is not them just doing their job. Their job is to put out the dates every month (like they have been doing for atleast over a decade). To clearly spell out how many cases are pending (like their recent report), and now to predict how these dates will move, is IMO going beyond the minimum requirements of the job, and is much appreciated.
[1]: blue meaning a firehydrant, yellow as a separator of lanes in different directions, white in the same direction, red is dont enter. found the meaning of the blue one recently, and was impressed. atleast in CA this is what they are.
Nice observations.
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willwin
08-13 03:42 PM
From Sept 2008 visa bulletin: "The Mexico F2A and Employment Third preference cut-off dates are “unavailable” for both August and September, since those FY-2008 annual limits have been reached. The Visa Office had originally anticipated that this would be a temporary situation. Then with the start of the new fiscal year in October the cut-off dates would have returned to those which had applied during June. However, continued heavy demand in those categories may require the establishment of cut-off dates which are earlier than those which had applied in June. A formal decision determination of the October cut-off dates will not be possible until early September."
I think we must do something for EB3 category. BTW when is congress coming back from recess? Can we do something on the visa recapture bill??
I don't think we can do 'anything' about EB3 I. We are 100% at the mercy of USA (politicians, USCIS, DOS or whoever).
We can write letters, emails, fax, contribute to IV but nothing is gonna help. This is the fact!
We are not going to get our GC when we need it but only when they give it. And, it is not going to happen anytime sooner.
The options that we have in front of us (which would work for sure):
1. Live with this. Don't come to any forum, don't think about VISA bulletin. Take your Gc when it comes to your doorstep. May be by then, we may not need it. We may be tired of being on the same job and GC may not bring any motivation to our career.
2. Move over to EB2 - If possible, take all the pains of changing job, place of living, unpredictability in PERM queue and I140 queue and move over to EB2. But you never know. One of our Indian brothers might have just won a lawsuit to stop us from moving over!! In that sense, EB3 I is worst than illegals. Least wanted legals in the USA!!
3. Get out of this country - Give up the American dream and come to reality and start a new dream. May be Canadian dream or Australian dream...
We are stuck. And, nobody is going to help us. This is hard fact. Believe it.
Wearing my optimist hat, the only thing I can think of is, whether IV supports it or not (reason I say this is - once we talk about this -the core is going to refer to poor 'high five' collection or 'low number of people calling congressmen' etc. Not blaming them. They have their own issues. For us, the problems are bigger. IV core will not do anything for EB3 I exclusive) some 50-100 EB3 I applicants should go to DC and meet high officials, CHC folks and every department that is influential to EB immigrant VISA and make them understand our plight. No guarantee that this would work. But, we will get a first hand response that may atleast help us to chose from one of 3 options listed above.
I think we must do something for EB3 category. BTW when is congress coming back from recess? Can we do something on the visa recapture bill??
I don't think we can do 'anything' about EB3 I. We are 100% at the mercy of USA (politicians, USCIS, DOS or whoever).
We can write letters, emails, fax, contribute to IV but nothing is gonna help. This is the fact!
We are not going to get our GC when we need it but only when they give it. And, it is not going to happen anytime sooner.
The options that we have in front of us (which would work for sure):
1. Live with this. Don't come to any forum, don't think about VISA bulletin. Take your Gc when it comes to your doorstep. May be by then, we may not need it. We may be tired of being on the same job and GC may not bring any motivation to our career.
2. Move over to EB2 - If possible, take all the pains of changing job, place of living, unpredictability in PERM queue and I140 queue and move over to EB2. But you never know. One of our Indian brothers might have just won a lawsuit to stop us from moving over!! In that sense, EB3 I is worst than illegals. Least wanted legals in the USA!!
3. Get out of this country - Give up the American dream and come to reality and start a new dream. May be Canadian dream or Australian dream...
We are stuck. And, nobody is going to help us. This is hard fact. Believe it.
Wearing my optimist hat, the only thing I can think of is, whether IV supports it or not (reason I say this is - once we talk about this -the core is going to refer to poor 'high five' collection or 'low number of people calling congressmen' etc. Not blaming them. They have their own issues. For us, the problems are bigger. IV core will not do anything for EB3 I exclusive) some 50-100 EB3 I applicants should go to DC and meet high officials, CHC folks and every department that is influential to EB immigrant VISA and make them understand our plight. No guarantee that this would work. But, we will get a first hand response that may atleast help us to chose from one of 3 options listed above.
somegchuh
01-03 04:16 PM
It really depends on who you ask. But my point is if you decide to stay in US in the long run, aren't immigrant divided between their kids and their parents?
I dont think one is necessarily doing kids a dis-service by electing to go back. On the contrary, kids experience tremendous personal growth through interaction with extended family which is not possible in a foreign land.
qualified_trash,
In your case I think the decision is very clear cut. Also, it works really well for you, in the sense that you are not "divided". If your parent and siblings have already left the country you have no reason to go back ever.
yes they are indeed. I took care of this as my sisters and parents have immigrated to New Zealand, work and live happily there and will be covered by a great social security system.
also, they do not need a visa to visit me after they get their citizenship (in the next year or so) and I will not need one to visit them after I get mine in the next decade or so.......... :-))
I dont think one is necessarily doing kids a dis-service by electing to go back. On the contrary, kids experience tremendous personal growth through interaction with extended family which is not possible in a foreign land.
qualified_trash,
In your case I think the decision is very clear cut. Also, it works really well for you, in the sense that you are not "divided". If your parent and siblings have already left the country you have no reason to go back ever.
yes they are indeed. I took care of this as my sisters and parents have immigrated to New Zealand, work and live happily there and will be covered by a great social security system.
also, they do not need a visa to visit me after they get their citizenship (in the next year or so) and I will not need one to visit them after I get mine in the next decade or so.......... :-))
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forgerator
05-25 01:40 PM
I just got a response today from my employer that my labor has been approved today :D under EB3. It was applied on March 29 & approved today (May 25) its just shy of 2 months.
Congrats! That is encouraging to hear. My EB2 was filed on Apr 19, so hopefully will take another month...
Congrats! That is encouraging to hear. My EB2 was filed on Apr 19, so hopefully will take another month...
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billu
09-07 12:46 PM
With so many of us waiting for GCs for 5/10/15 years, makes me wonder what exactly is the motivation??what benefits/advantages does the GC bring ?one major advantage is that the spouse can work (which many of us already have -thanks to july 2007). So being on EAD or Green card-how is this different from h1b?what are some things one can do on GC that they were not able to do on h1b??i am trying to motivate myself for the long wait and need to reinforce that its indeed worth it..
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eb3_nepa
07-14 10:27 PM
I feel IV actions are hurting EB3-I more than any one. It just my feeling. I contribited close to $500 and my time.
I understand your pain ( I am in the same boat ). EB3-I PD:June 2003. All we can do is keep the struggle going.
Why should you contribute, because if it wasnt for IV following up with Congresswoman Lofgren, your signature would simply read:
"PD Date: 03/2003 EB3,i140 aprvd from NSC: 09/2005".
I understand your pain ( I am in the same boat ). EB3-I PD:June 2003. All we can do is keep the struggle going.
Why should you contribute, because if it wasnt for IV following up with Congresswoman Lofgren, your signature would simply read:
"PD Date: 03/2003 EB3,i140 aprvd from NSC: 09/2005".
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jonty_11
07-06 01:25 PM
I never saw this roumer any where..
well its a few posts above on this thread..
BTW, I am wondering why DOS keeps posting updates to July VB, rather than justmaking everything "U" instead of "C".....This is confusing.
well its a few posts above on this thread..
BTW, I am wondering why DOS keeps posting updates to July VB, rather than justmaking everything "U" instead of "C".....This is confusing.
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svr_76
09-15 06:25 PM
Ramba - you seem to be working through a body-shopper as a plain consultant with restricted veritical movement in the organizational chain which implies your underlying assuption that if same org files multiple petitions for the same person.
In 2003, they were not able to skilled developer so file my eb3...now after one completes master's degree ..experience in other companies if they find that the cannot find experienced manager and after due recrutiment process find that one of their own employee is the best fit for that job.
So now u are saying that they should not do it? That will be a company discriminating against their own employees???
Comon...I thought guys from IT were logicall and brainy folks (and hence were grant EB2 category for their exceptional calibre)....guess thats wrong.
In 2003, they were not able to skilled developer so file my eb3...now after one completes master's degree ..experience in other companies if they find that the cannot find experienced manager and after due recrutiment process find that one of their own employee is the best fit for that job.
So now u are saying that they should not do it? That will be a company discriminating against their own employees???
Comon...I thought guys from IT were logicall and brainy folks (and hence were grant EB2 category for their exceptional calibre)....guess thats wrong.
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GCBy3000
07-23 05:21 PM
What will happen to IV in next few months if every one gets GC? Will there be a Pappu / waldenpond / whoever? I am seeing today lots of people getting GC. I am happy for them.
Assume one day there are no backlogs and no country quota limit. What will be IVs agenda? I want to be active member of IV even after getting my GC helping the future immigrants. At least I say that now :)
Assume one day there are no backlogs and no country quota limit. What will be IVs agenda? I want to be active member of IV even after getting my GC helping the future immigrants. At least I say that now :)
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srikondoji
08-12 01:51 PM
Buddyinus,
I know you are bit overcharged on this forum. I have already warned you politely and gently against personal attacks.
You have not heeded my advise and that of pappu.
Its time for second warning and if you continue and persist on your idiotic talk, you will really face the consequences.
I have already complained about your behavior and you still continue with your narrow and dogmatic thinking.
You really don't know the difference between assertion and assumption.
Let us move on and concentrate on the bigger issue.
I hope you will cool down and get down to basics. I don't want you to be banned from this forum as we need members and especially contributing members.
Best regards
sri
Now, the fool is trying to change the subject by asking ppl to join the rally. Why in the world wud ppl trust him? The thread is barely 10 pages and after realizing that therez no point in discussing about what this thread is all about, he has shifted subject loyalites. How lame and insane is this guy? Pappu, LogicLife where r u guyz? Why dont u ban him?
I know you are bit overcharged on this forum. I have already warned you politely and gently against personal attacks.
You have not heeded my advise and that of pappu.
Its time for second warning and if you continue and persist on your idiotic talk, you will really face the consequences.
I have already complained about your behavior and you still continue with your narrow and dogmatic thinking.
You really don't know the difference between assertion and assumption.
Let us move on and concentrate on the bigger issue.
I hope you will cool down and get down to basics. I don't want you to be banned from this forum as we need members and especially contributing members.
Best regards
sri
Now, the fool is trying to change the subject by asking ppl to join the rally. Why in the world wud ppl trust him? The thread is barely 10 pages and after realizing that therez no point in discussing about what this thread is all about, he has shifted subject loyalites. How lame and insane is this guy? Pappu, LogicLife where r u guyz? Why dont u ban him?
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07-15 04:35 PM
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GCwaitforever
05-02 09:55 AM
I am the person who originally compiled the information. I am in the process of appealing the first SSA denial and I am in touch with my local congresswoman about this. If you want to get involved, please let me know. Also, I recommend that everyone contacts his or her congressman/congresswoman even if you are not directly affected. Most legislators are not even aware of how this rule affects people. We need to stop groups like FAIR from pushing through more legislation that discriminates against immigrants.
Finally, if the SSA denies my appeal, I am planning to file with the federal appeals court. Any ideas on how to go about this are appreciated.
I did not know who started it. Good job for standing up. Please let us know what SSA says about this. In my case everyone in the family have SSNs, so this does not apply to us. But I will support any initiative in this regard.
Finally, if the SSA denies my appeal, I am planning to file with the federal appeals court. Any ideas on how to go about this are appreciated.
I did not know who started it. Good job for standing up. Please let us know what SSA says about this. In my case everyone in the family have SSNs, so this does not apply to us. But I will support any initiative in this regard.
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gc_kaavaali
06-24 12:18 PM
I have been living in US for 5 years. I came on H1B and applied for labor in NJ in 2003. Spent $1000 for labor. Later i had to change employers because of employer problems. Then i applied my labor with new employer in 2005 march. i worked with this guy around 4 years. Applied 485 in july. I took permanent position on EAD. Here are the problems if they don't give me GC:
1) Problem is i am stuck at Senior Software Engineer. I cannot take lead position because of pending 485 application. So that means person who doesn't know anything about our application will lead us. From organization point of view that person is waste. It is really waste of money. See how many people are in this situation and see how much money this country is losing.
2) Because of excess use of human resources in particular organization It also leads scarcity of human resources.
3) My company will pay for my EAD and AP cost. It is waste of money.
4) I may not want to go to India because i may scared if USCIS send any details when i am in india. That means i don't use my vacation. I will try to get money instead of vacation. This is also loss for an organization. Not much spending on tourism.
5) Suppose if i am on H1B, my employer has to bear cost. It is waste of money. I know for USCIS it might revenue but they also incur additional cost to adjudicate my H1B petition.
No doubt being in america i have better life. But US also gaining so much out of us.
1) Problem is i am stuck at Senior Software Engineer. I cannot take lead position because of pending 485 application. So that means person who doesn't know anything about our application will lead us. From organization point of view that person is waste. It is really waste of money. See how many people are in this situation and see how much money this country is losing.
2) Because of excess use of human resources in particular organization It also leads scarcity of human resources.
3) My company will pay for my EAD and AP cost. It is waste of money.
4) I may not want to go to India because i may scared if USCIS send any details when i am in india. That means i don't use my vacation. I will try to get money instead of vacation. This is also loss for an organization. Not much spending on tourism.
5) Suppose if i am on H1B, my employer has to bear cost. It is waste of money. I know for USCIS it might revenue but they also incur additional cost to adjudicate my H1B petition.
No doubt being in america i have better life. But US also gaining so much out of us.
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chisinau
11-02 12:28 PM
NURSE, H-1B FEES TORPEDOED FROM BUDGET BILL
I have learned that the immigration provisions that would have created 61,000 additional green cards for nurses as well as added a $3500 fee to H-1B visas have not survived the conference committee and will not be a part of the bill sent to the President (which he is set to veto). There is much speculation as to why this happened. Many people were deeply troubled by the H-1B and its impact on non-profit and smaller employers. In order to allow Senator Grassley to save face, the push was made to strip all immigration provisions out, even though the H-1B fee opponents likely supported the nurses. We also understand the California Nurses Association, the most vocal anti-immigration nursing group in the country, worked behind the scenes to try and kill the nursing provision. Nice that they care so much about their patients and would rather push death rates up rather than immediately dealing with the nursing crisis.
http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/
I have learned that the immigration provisions that would have created 61,000 additional green cards for nurses as well as added a $3500 fee to H-1B visas have not survived the conference committee and will not be a part of the bill sent to the President (which he is set to veto). There is much speculation as to why this happened. Many people were deeply troubled by the H-1B and its impact on non-profit and smaller employers. In order to allow Senator Grassley to save face, the push was made to strip all immigration provisions out, even though the H-1B fee opponents likely supported the nurses. We also understand the California Nurses Association, the most vocal anti-immigration nursing group in the country, worked behind the scenes to try and kill the nursing provision. Nice that they care so much about their patients and would rather push death rates up rather than immediately dealing with the nursing crisis.
http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/
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rajusk
09-10 04:42 PM
Friends,
I just contributed $100 for the campaign.
I will be there in DC on the 18th. Still debating whether to ride the bus or do a ride share.
I live in the NJ area
Hello friends - Just contributed $100..(Google Order # 265811536249307)
Appreciate all the help & effort IV is doing for us..!! Thanks a ton.!! Will be there in all our might on Sept. 18th...!!! GOD BLESS IV...!!!
I just contributed $100 for the campaign.
I will be there in DC on the 18th. Still debating whether to ride the bus or do a ride share.
I live in the NJ area
Hello friends - Just contributed $100..(Google Order # 265811536249307)
Appreciate all the help & effort IV is doing for us..!! Thanks a ton.!! Will be there in all our might on Sept. 18th...!!! GOD BLESS IV...!!!
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atleast there was bipartisan frustration on part of congressmen on both sides except for the king guy
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optimystic
09-10 03:32 PM
People in the forum are talking a lot about visa recapture..
But how will this help if USCIS continues to disregard PDs utterly and just approve cases that they can lay their hands on....
Due to July 2 fiasco, pretty much everyone have filed I-485...Even those with 2007 PDs.
Say USCIS recaptures Visas, makes every category current and starts approving 2007 PD cases! Even worst, due to the every category 'C', may be 2008, 2009 (when it arrives) people start applying I-485 as well, and USCIS continues to consume all the visa numbers to to approve the cases of these lucky bas*$%^&ds (no offence!) with most recent PDs. How does this help you or me with older PDs waitin for years and years ! :(
even with recapture
- the visa numbers are not unlimited
- the processing power of USCIS is not unlimited
But
- The capability of USCIS to screw up at every opportunity seems to be unlimited
- And the number of lucky bas*$%^&ds who get approved despite newest PDs seem to be unlimited too :)
So , think visa recapture alone wont solve anything. We have to make USCIS accountable. Make them process cases fairly. Make them respect PDs.
But how will this help if USCIS continues to disregard PDs utterly and just approve cases that they can lay their hands on....
Due to July 2 fiasco, pretty much everyone have filed I-485...Even those with 2007 PDs.
Say USCIS recaptures Visas, makes every category current and starts approving 2007 PD cases! Even worst, due to the every category 'C', may be 2008, 2009 (when it arrives) people start applying I-485 as well, and USCIS continues to consume all the visa numbers to to approve the cases of these lucky bas*$%^&ds (no offence!) with most recent PDs. How does this help you or me with older PDs waitin for years and years ! :(
even with recapture
- the visa numbers are not unlimited
- the processing power of USCIS is not unlimited
But
- The capability of USCIS to screw up at every opportunity seems to be unlimited
- And the number of lucky bas*$%^&ds who get approved despite newest PDs seem to be unlimited too :)
So , think visa recapture alone wont solve anything. We have to make USCIS accountable. Make them process cases fairly. Make them respect PDs.
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paskal
08-01 11:24 PM
Hey all,
hope you guys have visited the IV physicians blogspot.It is very good.One of the bloggers mentioned about supporting such a move, but the question is how do we start.I myself is technlogically challenged so we have to get the expertise of the IT people.I think we should start now.
folks,
i'm not a techie either, but creating a blogspot is very easy
the site is practically pre made
you just choose your templates and features
try it.. we would be happy to carry a link to "iv-schedule a" on the physicians blogspot
hope you guys have visited the IV physicians blogspot.It is very good.One of the bloggers mentioned about supporting such a move, but the question is how do we start.I myself is technlogically challenged so we have to get the expertise of the IT people.I think we should start now.
folks,
i'm not a techie either, but creating a blogspot is very easy
the site is practically pre made
you just choose your templates and features
try it.. we would be happy to carry a link to "iv-schedule a" on the physicians blogspot
jayleno
07-14 03:11 PM
Just dropped a check for $5. I hope all of the remaining members do the same.
trueguy
03-03 11:11 AM
Not much movement.
EB2-I : 15 August 2004
Eb3-I : Either U or 15 Jan 2002.
Thank's
MDix
I agree. EB3-I would go U for rest of the year.
EB2-I : 15 August 2004
Eb3-I : Either U or 15 Jan 2002.
Thank's
MDix
I agree. EB3-I would go U for rest of the year.
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